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Corvalis
10-22-2008, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Galv View Post

It's a bad idea comparing SWG pob ships with what might or can be done with STO. SWG pobs are very basic your only manning turrets, and the ops chair is just used to shunt weapon energy to sheilds pretty boring really it's just one key/button press, and no pob ship crews are feared in SWG a well equiped fighter can take them down in a couple of shots and they were very rarely used in pvp space. I think STO is going to need/will be something a lot more complexed than turret controls for a PC bridge crew to use and be fun.

It could be fun but i'd much rather have dev time spent on content, gameplay and NPC crews intead of a feature like PC crews which i think (going on this thread alone) won't appeal to many.
What?



Lol....have you ever PVP'd in one?

Only a noob captain and an untrained crew fall into that category. When idiots don't try to fly them like interceptors and actually know some basic tactics and take the time to learn the ship then they are "slightly" deadly.<------That was sarcasm. Also, the ops does a little more than that.....shield adjustments and reinforcements make a huge difference in POB tactics (and fighers, too) and all command overloads are made from that chair (and a few from the turrets), it isn't just "used to shunt weapon energy to shields". If other crew with repair kits are on board then alot of damage can be fixed on the fly. And teamspeak is a must for fast communication.

Go to the SWG forums and tell this guy (all the same person) that POB's are very rarely used in space PVP, aren't fun to pvp in and POB crews aren't feared:

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Corvalis
10-22-2008, 12:25 PM
I believe that it is clear that the OP had ZERO concept of how POBs are utilized by skilled pilots and crew in SWG, and in his ignorance, was threatening to remove one of the very best concepts ever developed for an MMO from this game.

POBs, and player crews, are, quite frankly, the ONLY reason I have played SWG for nearly 5 years. It would be a shame if any Star Trek game did not feature something similar.

Just in case the OP or anyone else would like evidence of POB competence, please watch this video of a typical nightly deep space run (all ships in the video are piloted by veteran players and crew...even the gunship). If you look closely, you'll also see that even with the edits, the armor damage remains the same throughout. The editing was done only for time purposes.


Manollium Flame in Deep Space (http://files.filefront.com/Flame1wmv/;10709394;/fileinfo.html)

UfcFan78
10-22-2008, 12:33 PM
I was trying to find a vid link when I responded to the OP...........glad you posted one. Then they closed the thread.

Corvalis
10-22-2008, 12:37 PM
I was trying to find a vid link when I responded to the OP...........glad you posted one. Then they closed the thread.

/nod

I'm sure you know, I don't post that to brag. There are many very fine POB pilots and crews who are capable of the same, if not better runs...

I just am constantly amazed at the people who fail to take the time to master a challenging aspect of a game (or anything in life), and therefore automatically discard it as fundamentally flawed because of its difficulty.

I would think that any successful game developer would promote challenging content as an OPTION, if not a requirement.

Wolf503
10-22-2008, 12:43 PM
All this makes me miss my YT-1300 the "Midnight Lady".

That POB kept me playing for awhile...

headlockman
10-22-2008, 01:12 PM
Dont forget about the new mmo KOTOR , Im guessing those ships could be very hight tech

PugPug
10-22-2008, 01:22 PM
Sitting at Ops isn't fun. They'd have to make a separate game for each work station.

As for SWG comparison: Star Trek never had gun turrets. Just one guy at Tactical with the computer aiming for him, unless targeting systems were out.

Debaser
10-22-2008, 01:34 PM
So....is this considered a PC crew thread in an SWG skin?

Cormoran
10-22-2008, 01:39 PM
So....is this considered a PC crew thread in an SWG skin?

Yeah i'm wondering that too. At first i thought i'd accidentally strolled into the SWG forums. If PC crews is it's only link to STO then i predict a decloaking.

jsutich
10-22-2008, 02:09 PM
Let me see if I can figure this out before I close it. This thread was created to highlight a mention of PC Bridge Crews on another space-related game's forums and then encourage forum members from here to go there and continue a heated debate bordering on flame war about PvP, singling out a particular member of the other forums?

I don't recommend this course of action to anyone, we don't do that here.