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Napalm006

10-07-2008, 05:30 AM

Any one know how much this game is going to be to buy and how much is it per month? Also is there going to be a preorder because i am ready to signup!!!!

I'm certain there will be preorders, and I would expect a montly fee any where from $10.00 - 16.00 a month and deals for every 3/6/ and year deals. I do hope for a yearly membership. Thats the one thing I like about Eve. Is that they offer that. WoW only offers a 6 month at most. I would also like to see a program that allows you to play all Cryptic games for a flat fee, like SOE did. I'm sure there will be people from the other Cryptic MMOs that will want to play both or all their MMOs but cant because they dont want to pay 3 massive fees.

holmes0111

10-07-2008, 05:30 AM

Quark was trying to know a few coppies off, at a going price of 5 bars of gold pressed latinum.

I'de say, at a guss, the inital game would go for about £29.99/$60? The average cost of a game, then yearly subscriptons would probably be half that?

ninjakiller1

10-07-2008, 05:33 AM

no! the game will come out this year or next year before summer but for xbox 360 or ps3 for next 1 or 2 years!

price will be same as other pc games, for £30 as in UK price and USA price maybe of $60 dollar!

but than you have to pay monthly for the game to play online!

Its like this: You for pay for the game to play but the game its not your to copy because you only bought the License to play the game!

phifur

10-07-2008, 05:33 AM

Any one know how much this game is going to be to buy and how much is it per month? Also is there going to be a preorder because i am ready to signup!!!!

This game is coming out fall 2009 ( I hope) The Price I think is going to be $50-$60 US to buy and I am guessing again because no information on price is out yet but I think $10-15 US a month. Maybe if you go to EBworld.com maybe you can preorder but again This is all my guess. If you have any question use the search tap before post a thread thanks :)

phifur

10-07-2008, 05:36 AM

Nothing has been officially announced about pricing, and I've not seen any places allow pre-orders this far before launch.

I'd expect it all to be similar to the likes of WoW or WAR at first though.

Well I did preorder spore two years before launch at EBworld after I seen it on E3(G4 channel) :p

ravenco

10-18-2008, 01:46 PM

Scribe

10-18-2008, 01:54 PM

I'm not so fussed about monthlys because at least you have the chance to leave if it's too much. However age of conan charged £35? I think for the game and offered no free trial, so you had to blindly pay a large sum of money to play what ended up being a game in early BETA with worse balance than a ferengi with an ear infection.

Trekkie

10-18-2008, 03:10 PM

As others have stated, nothing is known about how much the game will cost yet, but I assume that it will be similar to how other massively multiplayer online games are priced.

ravenco

10-18-2008, 06:34 PM

I would love to get in on Beta. If any Dev. sees this please. LOL. Anyway SWG is a cool game but they get you on expantions. They came out so you pay to get access to them but the 14 day free trial is the basic game and you get to try it out before you buy it. I know this game is going to be great. But look at LOTR and Age of Conan. People bought the game and heard nothing good after a few weeks of playing. Each time these people paid 50+ dollars for the game and only pay it for 1 -2 months. Don't have the money to jump around and not play something. I love ST and SW so i want to play ST really badly. ST is like a drug or Dam it i got one of those darn headsets on again. LOL. Can't wait.

Riceball

10-18-2008, 10:48 PM

As mentioned before the game will probably cost about $50 - $60 for a standard edition, more if they offer a collector's edition.

Monthly fee will mostly likely be $15/month which is pretty much the industry standard. It's quite possible that they'll offer multiple month discounts where you pay for 3 or months in advance and you get a few dollars off of what you would pay month to month.

As for pre-orders, that's not really so much up to Cryptic but the retailers like Best Buy and Game Stop but I can pretty much guarantee that around open Beta time or so Game Stop will be offering pre-orders with some sort or incentive. I've seen pre-order incentives ranging from exclusive in-game items (usually nothing earth shattering in importance), guaranteed entry into the Beta, or something like a 2 - 3 day head start before the official launch date (really good if you're a power leveler/gamer and just have to rush to max level/end game within the first two weeks of a game's release).

lucifersangel87

10-19-2008, 02:00 AM

The pricing system in EVE Online is a damned good one as far as i am concerned.

Free trial and Free client. but then you pay £12/month for as long as you want to play.

One month of free trial was enough to get me completely hooked on EVE. Now imagine all the trekkies in the uk getting their hands on this game as a free trial, playing unlimited for a month, wetting themselves with joy, and then watch the conversion rate from trial to full game go sky high.

KO_Gilligan

10-19-2008, 02:34 AM

Might be paying in Yen

Father_Origin

10-19-2008, 03:09 AM

ThosaH

10-19-2008, 03:52 AM

bradley1701

10-19-2008, 07:00 AM

I've been waiting for this game for so long, I'll pay whatever they want! LOL

connordyer

10-19-2008, 07:47 AM

I've been waiting for this game for so long, I'll pay whatever they want! LOL

Agreed...:cool:

poisonblade

10-19-2008, 01:36 PM

Agreed...:cool:
Yes I am looking forward to this game also and will pay more than 60$ for this game plus more than 20 for the membership...I want to play this game badly...

Mornot

10-19-2008, 03:45 PM

i dont think there should be any monthly charge especialy if there going to give it to console players

curtst

10-19-2008, 03:57 PM

i dont think there should be any monthly charge especialy if there going to give it to console players

Why not?

Oh and they aren't giving it to console players. They have to buy it too. Infact they will have to pay 10 bucks more than people with PCs. The 10 bucks more is for the initial cost of the game the monthly fee will be the same.

Signalsgt

10-19-2008, 03:57 PM

i dont think there should be any monthly charge especialy if there going to give it to console players

I'd prefer they charged Console players extra to cover the development costs.

curtst

10-19-2008, 04:01 PM

i think you guys over estimate the price a little for the US. i've never seen a PC game sold in the US for more than $40 in the last two years. the economy is really bad here right now, and i don't think people are gonna be so desperate to play STO. they will be lucky to get their $40 and be happy with it i think. especially when the demand for PC games in general is dropping dramatically in favor of Wii, 360, and PS3. the people in the foreign markets, especially the brits... are just getting raped because your money is worth more, that's all. typical games here cost $29.99, compared to your same amount in pounds. sorry :(

You have never seen a game for $49.99??? You must not get highly anticipated games then or wait awhile before you go out and get it. Most of the games I have I have spent $49.99 on. Typical prices for PC games get no higher than $49.99 unless it some type of special collectors edition. Console games (excluding the Wii) typical cost no more than $59.99.

moxion2386

10-19-2008, 05:21 PM

Valse

10-19-2008, 05:30 PM

I can see Mornot's point if say STO comes out on the ol' Xbox 360. Players already have a monthly (in most cases a yearly) expense with Xbox Live, then have to pay more on top of that? Ever heard of Phantasy Star Universe? I believe a big part of it's fall was that it required people to subscribe on top of their Live subscription.

This is why I do all my MMO'ing on PC.

Why not?

Oh and they aren't giving it to console players. They have to buy it too. Infact they will have to pay 10 bucks more than people with PCs. The 10 bucks more is for the initial cost of the game the monthly fee will be the same.

While I suppose there's some logic in that I refer to my above statement.

I'd prefer they charged Console players extra to cover the development costs.

Hell half the PC games I've bought in the last year have been $49.99.

Yes i agree. I see pc games all the time in us for 49.99. I mean who wants to wait months for the price to come down......

curtst

10-19-2008, 05:35 PM

I can see Mornot's point if say STO comes out on the ol' Xbox 360. Players already have a monthly (in most cases a yearly) expense with Xbox Live, then have to pay more on top of that? Ever heard of Phantasy Star Universe? I believe a big part of it's fall was that it required people to subscribe on top of their Live subscription.

This is why I do all my MMO'ing on PC.

I don't see his point. XBox live gold isn't required for folks who want to subscribe to a MMO. So no additional fee will be there.

Good news, Xbox Live members! Massively multiplayer titles are one of the most exciting aspects of the new Xbox Live, and no one has to miss out. For example, if you want to enter the world ofFinal Fantasy® XI and get in on some of the most graphically stunning and exciting gameplay in the world, you just have to plug into your broadband connection, create a gamertag, and you’re off*. MMO games will come with their own subscription plan, so even if you’re not a full-fledged Xbox Live Gold member you’ll be able to participate in this growing phenomenon.

Link (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/features/massivemultiplayer.htm)

Valse

10-19-2008, 05:42 PM

Well then, I am corrected. I wasn't aware of this policy, but like I said I do all my MMO playing on my PC.

I don't see his point. XBox live gold isn't required for folks who want to subscribe to a MMO. So no additional fee will be there.

Link (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/features/massivemultiplayer.htm)

curtst

10-19-2008, 05:44 PM

Well then, I am corrected. I wasn't aware of this policy, but like I said I do all my MMO playing on my PC.

STO will be my first MMO. While I do have a Xbox 360, I do plan on getting it for my PC. :D

Only reason Live Gold isn't required is because you are using the games servers and not the live servers.

Valse

10-19-2008, 05:50 PM

Congrats, but one word of advice: Make friends. Even if you plan on solo'ing it's nice to have friends in any MMO.

STO will be my first MMO. While I do have a Xbox 360, I do plan on getting it for my PC. :D

That makes perfect since actually, which is while with my misconception about it I was always confused.

Only reason Live Gold isn't required is because you are using the games servers and not the live servers.

curtst

10-19-2008, 05:58 PM

Congrats, but one word of advice: Make friends. Even if you plan on solo'ing it's nice to have friends in any MMO.

Of course! :D

Mornot

10-19-2008, 08:01 PM

Why not?

Oh and they aren't giving it to console players. They have to buy it too. Infact they will have to pay 10 bucks more than people with PCs. The 10 bucks more is for the initial cost of the game the monthly fee will be the same.

i did not mean free i just asumed they had no other fee to pay then the gold
ok i was not aware of the gold policy either
im also hoping it does not go to just xbox live, PS3 would be another Console that could easely handle the game

i still say there should be no monthly fee, y pay $49.99 for a game and need to pay 15 more a month to play (or whatever it is they would think of charging). dont say thats how they all are cause not all are month to month fee's, Guild Wars had none it worked fine and is still working fine and is still suported. Diablo 2 not exactly the same but it completely suported and work and is still suported. let alone its still being sold at stores brand new. I just cant justify charging someone 50 for a game then make em dish out more cash just to play the game.

Valse

10-19-2008, 08:10 PM

Yes, some games do work without a monthly fee. However I don't much like Guild Wars--

My bias aside, look at it this way. You are potentially paying for the infinite upkeep of the service in which you are using. The monthly fee you pay will go to keeping the servers running, software upkeep, as well as a lot of other tech maintenance. This doesn't include part of your money which will most likely be used for further content development and game enhancements down the road.

Also I'm sure some of the money goes to funding IP rights, wages, and other various expenses. So see it this way, you're paying for the betterment of your experience and that of your peers as well as putting food on the plate of Cryptic (and other game developers).

i did not mean free i just asumed they had no other fee to pay then the gold
ok i was not aware of the gold policy either
im also hoping it does not go to just xbox live, PS3 would be another Console that could easely handle the game

i still say there should be no monthly fee, y pay $49.99 for a game and need to pay 15 more a month to play (or whatever it is they would think of charging). dont say thats how they all are cause not all are month to month fee's, Guild Wars had none it worked fine and is still working fine and is still suported. Diablo 2 not exactly the same but it completely suported and work and is still suported. let alone its still being sold at stores brand new. I just cant justify charging someone 50 for a game then make em dish out more cash just to play the game.

Riceball

10-19-2008, 08:14 PM

i did not mean free i just asumed they had no other fee to pay then the gold
ok i was not aware of the gold policy either
im also hoping it does not go to just xbox live, PS3 would be another Console that could easely handle the game

i still say there should be no monthly fee, y pay $49.99 for a game and need to pay 15 more a month to play (or whatever it is they would think of charging). dont say thats how they all are cause not all are month to month fee's, Guild Wars had none it worked fine and is still working fine and is still suported. Diablo 2 not exactly the same but it completely suported and work and is still suported. let alone its still being sold at stores brand new. I just cant justify charging someone 50 for a game then make em dish out more cash just to play the game.

This has been discussed ad nauseum in other posts but it all comes down to the fact a monthly fee is the industry standard and Guild Wars is one of the few exceptions out there. $15/month pays for server maintenance and upkeep, GMs to monitor the game and to help players in need, devs to track down and fix bugs and new content and/or tweaking the game so that gameplay is properly balanced, and last but not least it goes to pay for the license Paramount isn't just letting Cryptic use the Star Trek license for free. To sum it up, no successful MMO is free to play, just look at WoW, LOTRO, CoX. EQ they all charge a monthly fee and are quite successful with a large player base and in the case of WoW, a huge player base.

Mysticone622

10-19-2008, 08:19 PM

I am a like alot of you out there in the U.S. I love how the Economy is going. :< I have not seen anything for preorder up on that website you mentioned. Also, I need to hopefull get enough money together to get the game. LOL. I hope to have enough to buy 1 subscription. Unless the Economy picks up. I might not be able to afford to play the game. :< Its either house or Subscription. Maybe there we be like swg where you can get the 14 day trial software which is the game and not have to pay for the software. So i could play.

Question: I heard that they where having a contest for Lifetime Membership? How do is sign up?

SWG is 5 years old, thats why they have a free trail, 95% of Newer games do not offer one when the game is first released. WHY? Beucase they lose more money that way...

Also the Overall Economy is crappy but yea, but My wife and I make a totaly of around $35k a year currently living in the Norfolk, VA area(cost I would say is in the middle)... just got bought a house in June, have 2 kids, im in school and Internship, she makes 13.50 hr while i make 9.50 hr ........ and I think we are doing fine.... (will be doing a lot better once I graduate school and the Police Academy)

If I see a game I want to buy and I have even a little money I get it.... as far as MMOs go no one says yo have to play it year round... if fact most people get burnt out doing that.

My Advice would be Buy the game and play that free first month and then when you have $14.99 just sign up for a month and enjoy that time you will be playing the game....

Mornot

10-19-2008, 08:45 PM

ok i do see your point about paramounts cost for the rights and server upkeep

If I see a game I want to buy and I have even a little money I get it.... as far as MMOs go no one says yo have to play it year round... if fact most people get burnt out doing that.

My Advice would be Buy the game and play that free first month and then when you have $14.99 just sign up for a month and enjoy that time you will be playing the game....

ok now this would make sence to me but if you dont pay that month would you not loose all your previous progress and need to start over, even if not from past experience you join a group, guild , fleet whatever you want to call it the leader of those groups give you the boot after couple of days inactive let alone a couple of month. or need some help like an extra ship no fleet to help ya and lot of time no group people dont want to help ya so your stuck (sorry GW is only mmo ive played so only info i have is based on this)

but ill leave it at that i just say charge me one time and no other monthly fee's 9 I still can be wishfull cause from the sounds of things there will be a monthly charge)
i think i have almost every pc startek game let alone some console super nitendo to nitendo ds and the star trek mod for sins. this would be a great addition but well see what the pricing is and how it realy works

Riceball

10-19-2008, 09:03 PM

ok now this would make sence to me but if you dont pay that month would you not loose all your previous progress and need to start over, even if not from past experience you join a group, guild , fleet whatever you want to call it the leader of those groups give you the boot after couple of days inactive let alone a couple of month. or need some help like an extra ship no fleet to help ya and lot of time no group people dont want to help ya so your stuck (sorry GW is only mmo ive played so only info i have is based on this)

Although the game is always going and it never stops as long as the servers are up and running this does not mean that time's moving forward for your character(s). In this aspect an MMO is just like any other non-MMO like and FPS, just because you're not playing does not mean the game moves on without you. Unless a mission is timed you will have all the time in the world to complete whether it takes you 1 hour, 1 day, or 1 week. So if you were to, let's say, take a 2 week vacation and don't have access to the game what happens is that you'll be at the exact same spot, with the exact same misisons, with exact same amount of progress as you had before you left for your vacation.

Mysticone622

10-19-2008, 09:11 PM

ok i do see your point about paramounts cost for the rights and server upkeep

ok now this would make sence to me but if you dont pay that month would you not loose all your previous progress and need to start over, even if not from past experience you join a group, guild , fleet whatever you want to call it the leader of those groups give you the boot after couple of days inactive let alone a couple of month. or need some help like an extra ship no fleet to help ya and lot of time no group people dont want to help ya so your stuck (sorry GW is only mmo ive played so only info i have is based on this)

but ill leave it at that i just say charge me one time and no other monthly fee's 9 I still can be wishfull cause from the sounds of things there will be a monthly charge)
i think i have almost every pc startek game let alone some console super nitendo to nitendo ds and the star trek mod for sins. this would be a great addition but well see what the pricing is and how it realy works

no monthly fee means no bug fixes, from what I understand with GW is that you have to wait for another expa. to get all the fixes...but with the new game there is always going to be new bugs...

Monthly fees help the dev pay to keep the servers up and running as well as let us download weekly/monthly updates, patches, content, ect....

Tandriin

10-19-2008, 09:33 PM

Monthly fees help the dev pay to keep the servers up and running as well as let us download weekly/monthly updates, patches, content, ect....

That's the point :)

I think support for mmo's with monthly fee is much better than for an mmo with "free-play".

btw. i think 12-15$ are not so much. Think about the cost for one evening in the disco. It will cost you a lot more for maybe 4-6 hours. sto can you play the whole month as much as you want.

ThosaH

10-19-2008, 10:53 PM

You have never seen a game for $49.99??? You must not get highly anticipated games then or wait awhile before you go out and get it. Most of the games I have I have spent $49.99 on. Typical prices for PC games get no higher than $49.99 unless it some type of special collectors edition. Console games (excluding the Wii) typical cost no more than $59.99.

well you must live in an inflated area or larger city where people have more money on average to play. where i live age of conan started at $40 i think at walmart. that was a highly anticipated game.

some of you people need to get your priorities right... no doubt... star trek is COOL... this game looks really COOL... but don't be obsessed. if you need it so much you'll pay anything, that's like a drug dude. besides, you're ruining it for the rest of us who don't have mountains of cash laying everywhere, or parents to spoil us by giving us whatever we ask for when we want it. when cryptic looks at the boards and all they see are armies of people saying they will pay any price they demand as long as they give you the game... well then that's what they are going to do. it's all just a way for them to make money dude. at the end of the day the board of executives just make money for the share holders.... as much as they can. man some people just let themselves be tools of the establishment. just give me my TV... my Xbox... my movies... entertain me and keep me fat and happy.... let the world burn i don't care.

Valse

10-20-2008, 01:40 AM

Or maybe you're just a lucky punk, have you throught of that? I've lived in both necks of the woods-- the small town city and a major metropolitan area and $50 seems to be the industry standard for popular new releases.

And not speaking for others, my personal priorities are in order. I work for my money and I see something like STO as a reward for making a living aside from the essentials like power, water, food, and health. If I want to spend my money that's my business. If I or someone else is willing to pay more than you are for something this isn't my problem, this is your problem. If a majority of people are willing to pay more than me for something then guess what, I'll have to pony up or it's my problem too. It's basic capitalism, money makes the world-go-round.

With that said, you can keep your TV, your Xbox, your movies, but game companies are not obligated to entertain those unwilling to fund them for their services... the world may not burn, but it sure will move on without you and your arrogance.

If this is harsh I do not apologize, opinions are opinions, you can choose not to listen.

well you must live in an inflated area or larger city where people have more money on average to play. where i live age of conan started at $40 i think at walmart. that was a highly anticipated game.

some of you people need to get your priorities right... no doubt... star trek is COOL... this game looks really COOL... but don't be obsessed. if you need it so much you'll pay anything, that's like a drug dude. besides, you're ruining it for the rest of us who don't have mountains of cash laying everywhere, or parents to spoil us by giving us whatever we ask for when we want it. when cryptic looks at the boards and all they see are armies of people saying they will pay any price they demand as long as they give you the game... well then that's what they are going to do. it's all just a way for them to make money dude. at the end of the day the board of executives just make money for the share holders.... as much as they can. man some people just let themselves be tools of the establishment. just give me my TV... my Xbox... my movies... entertain me and keep me fat and happy.... let the world burn i don't care.

RookActual

10-20-2008, 01:53 AM

Or maybe you're just a lucky punk, have you throught of that? I've lived in both necks of the woods-- the small town city and a major metropolitan area and $50 seems to be the industry standard for popular new releases.

And not speaking for others, my personal priorities are in order. I work for my money and I see something like STO as a reward for making a living aside from the essentials like power, water, food, and health. If I want to spend my money that's my business. If I or someone else is willing to pay more than you are for something this isn't my problem, this is your problem. If a majority of people are willing to pay more than me for something then guess what, I'll have to pony up or it's my problem too. It's basic capitalism, money makes the world-go-round.

With that said, you can keep your TV, your Xbox, your movies, but game companies are not obligated to entertain those unwilling to fund them for their services... the world may not burn, but it sure will move on without you and your arrogance.

If this is harsh I do not apologize, opinions are opinions, you can choose not to listen.

I know that most retailers only make five to six dollars on an individual copy. Retail typically likes to do anywhere from 30% - 45% markup, on a video game you're looking at 10% markup maximum. Even major locations don't get much better bulk discounts than individual small business owners on electronics from the distributor. The point is, games cost a lot to produce and the going rate is something that is figured into a license from day one. It determines how many staff members you can have, what equipment you can dedicate to it, and if it's a licensed property, that's a whole different monster. You almost have to know from day one how many units you can sale.

If you want to talk about being ripped off, you should look at Blizzard's marketing strategy for StarCraft 2. I don't mind paying for the things I want, but there is definitely a line. However, 15 dollars a month is absolutely fair and reasonable to me so long as the developers maintain the servers, keep some content coming and offer up some expansions, which I will gladly pay for if the game is engaging enough.

Valse

10-20-2008, 02:32 AM

I don't believe I mentioned being ripped off, so I hope either it was a misinterpretation or it simply wasn't entirely directed at me.

But no, I'll pay anything if I think it's worth it. If I don't I don't gripe about it, I simply don't get it, simple as that. I mean if I think it's not worth the price why would I buy it-- *****ing rights?

Personally I haven't heard anything about how Blizzard is marketing StarCraft 2 as unlike the seeming majority of the world I really have no interest in it. And apparently because I never played StarCraft when I was younger that makes me a deprived child in some eyes.

Anyway, Rook, stop following me! :P

I know that most retailers only make five to six dollars on an individual copy. Retail typically likes to do anywhere from 30% - 45% markup, on a video game you're looking at 10% markup maximum. Even major locations don't get much better bulk discounts than individual small business owners on electronics from the distributor. The point is, games cost a lot to produce and the going rate is something that is figured into a license from day one. It determines how many staff members you can have, what equipment you can dedicate to it, and if it's a licensed property, that's a whole different monster. You almost have to know from day one how many units you can sale.

If you want to talk about being ripped off, you should look at Blizzard's marketing strategy for StarCraft 2. I don't mind paying for the things I want, but there is definitely a line. However, 15 dollars a month is absolutely fair and reasonable to me so long as the developers maintain the servers, keep some content coming and offer up some expansions, which I will gladly pay for if the game is engaging enough.

RookActual

10-20-2008, 02:35 AM

Oh, no, it wasnt directed at you, and you quit following me first...cause it's making me dizzy!

graeme1701

10-20-2008, 02:58 AM

£29.99 via www.play.com or www.game.co.uk when its launched! :p

curtst

10-20-2008, 03:41 AM

well you must live in an inflated area or larger city where people have more money on average to play. where i live age of conan started at $40 i think at walmart. that was a highly anticipated game.

some of you people need to get your priorities right... no doubt... star trek is COOL... this game looks really COOL... but don't be obsessed. if you need it so much you'll pay anything, that's like a drug dude. besides, you're ruining it for the rest of us who don't have mountains of cash laying everywhere, or parents to spoil us by giving us whatever we ask for when we want it. when cryptic looks at the boards and all they see are armies of people saying they will pay any price they demand as long as they give you the game... well then that's what they are going to do. it's all just a way for them to make money dude. at the end of the day the board of executives just make money for the share holders.... as much as they can. man some people just let themselves be tools of the establishment. just give me my TV... my Xbox... my movies... entertain me and keep me fat and happy.... let the world burn i don't care.

lol not quite. Don't get me wrong I used to live in Atlanta, paid $50 bucks there too. Right now I live at Whiteman AFB, MO, in a little town called Knob Noster, MO, population of 2,000. Cost of new games at Wal-mart, Hastings, BX? $50 for popular unless its for my xbox then $60. Hell the closest store to me except the BX, is Wal-Mart in a slightly larger city called Warrensburg, 10 miles away.

Hell even DVD movies are freaking expensive here. When I live in Atlanta new releases were $14.99. New releases here? $19.99. WTF.

And I don't have mountains of cash laying around, would be nice. I am an E-5 in the Air Force, go ahead and look up the pay chart, I have 5 years of service in you can see how much I make. Now add bill in to that equation and that amount dwindles quickly! lol.

Cathbadh

10-20-2008, 04:57 AM

At least you guys don't live in Europe where everything is priced assuming a conversion rate of $1 = €1, with a 20% markup on top!

ThosaH

10-20-2008, 05:15 AM

i don't need a freakin lecture on capitolism. first of all, i wasn't directing that comment at specterwolf anyways, hence the space between my comments. it was a general comment towards a few previous posts, not a direct reply. but since you wanna be a smart alek, the money you make on your paycheck isn't a reward, it's money owed to you for providing services. and neither is STO a reward. its a product that you choose to buy. and in our "capitolistic" society that you wanna sound so smart to talk about and teach me the in-depth theories on economics... hey don't have time to finish this... sorry ro deprive you, but i have to leave to go defend your right to be a D [ ck

Dext

10-20-2008, 09:24 AM

Any one know how much this game is going to be to buy and how much is it per month? Also is there going to be a preorder because i am ready to signup!!!!

Going off other mmos that come out new $50 USD for just the game, an $100 USD for the CE if they have one

Valse

10-20-2008, 10:47 AM

I didn't say my paycheck was a reward, I said I was rewarding myself for making a living-- get it straight. I work for my money and yes it's owed to me for my service, but when the days and I've felt like I've accomplished my day I'm bond to celebate with something.

As for your comment not being reflected at me, if that's in reply to my second response where I quoted Rook, then that comment was for him, not you.

As for picking up a weapon. Really, did you even have to spout that? There are more than one way to serve your country contrary to popular belief. I had a chance to join the Air Force, and I didn't. Instead I served my time with extra schooling and landing the job I have now. Sure I may not be wailing on top grade military hardware with my tools, but I help keep one of America's (and Globally) biggest companies running on the tech side. It's people like me that help keep the economy turning. In all honesty my "digital fantasy land" is maybe an hour a day even if I get around to that-- but look at the "weapons" being developed these days to keep our forces off the front lines. My digital world is becoming your REAL world.

As for people who do live their lives in an MMO, I know one and he was a roommate of mine. He wasn't the best guy in the world, but when he had to work he did so. So yeah, who's to tell him how to live his life on his own personal time?

The forum is not a collective voice despite what you believe, it's only seems collective because people of similar interests and backgrounds have summoned to a single point. So of course they're going to have monotone opinion about things. But we all also differ on various aspects as well if you'd care to look around, we're not all drones.

And I take resent to being called a d***. Calling you punk was probably just as inappropriate and I apologize for that.

This will most likely be my last reply in this regards, sure I'll take the time and read whatever you reply with, but I've expressed my opinion and defended myself so there's nothing more to be said.

ok, now that i'm back from being a real man, why don't you "pony up" as you put it, pick up a weapon and help defend freedom and your family. get your head out of this digital fantasy land for five minutes, or as we like to call it, your fourth point of contact. there's bigger and more important things going on in the REAAAAL world. that's what i'm talkin about when i say get priorities straight. cause some day, there might not BE a real world left. one worth living in anyway. people get way too hyped up and excited for this stuff, as if it's to be desired more than the real world. i swear, i think some people "come home" to their favorite MMO and take a break every once in a while to visit reality. and you know what? if some people want to live life like that then who am i to tell them otherwise? but here in the forums we have a "collective voice" and i don't need someone like that speaking for me!

RookActual

10-20-2008, 11:08 AM

:rolleyes:

Military service should be respected, it's why I became a Marine, but the first step to being a decent soldier or marine is not to assume you are a better one because of it. Being in the military does not transform your opinions into facts. Typically the only time I justify anything in a forum discussion with my military service is when it's relevant, such as a discussion about SOPs, or formalities and customs. Other than that, I'm sure everyone respects the uniform you wear, but that doesn't mean the person in it is instantly great.

This game will cost money. There is plenty of time to save up for it, and I'm sure there are ways you could find to squeeze fifteen dollars out a month. If you're not willing to, then I suppose you won't be playing the game. Being able to pay for the game doesn't mean your parents are paying for everything you have, or that you're rich, it just means you found the game worthy of the price enough to allocate money from your budget to play it. It can be a reward. If more people saw their compensation as a reward, they'd probably be more motivated, yet a lot of people think they're entitled to more, but don't really want to give more to earn more.

RyanRosco

10-20-2008, 12:18 PM

I dont think anyone knows yet

Mornot

10-21-2008, 03:07 PM

no monthly fee means no bug fixes, from what I understand with GW is that you have to wait for another expa. to get all the fixes...but with the new game there is always going to be new bugs...

Monthly fees help the dev pay to keep the servers up and running as well as let us download weekly/monthly updates, patches, content, ect....

GW does have bug fixes and adds minor content on a regular basis and not have to wait for the new expension to get it. all you dont get is the new char or the new world to explore but the rest was given to all
they have ballance change and fixes but dont take it from me take it from the web site http://www.guildwars.com/support/gameupdates/default.php
monthly fee just a cash grab . WOW was suposed to have continues new content never having to buy an expansion but they did

:rolleyes:

Military service should be respected, it's why I became a Marine, but the first step to being a decent soldier or marine is not to assume you are a better one because of it. Being in the military does not transform your opinions into facts. Typically the only time I justify anything in a forum discussion with my military service is when it's relevant, such as a discussion about SOPs, or formalities and customs. Other than that, I'm sure everyone respects the uniform you wear, but that doesn't mean the person in it is instantly great.

This game will cost money. There is plenty of time to save up for it, and I'm sure there are ways you could find to squeeze fifteen dollars out a month. If you're not willing to, then I suppose you won't be playing the game. Being able to pay for the game doesn't mean your parents are paying for everything you have, or that you're rich, it just means you found the game worthy of the price enough to allocate money from your budget to play it. It can be a reward. If more people saw their compensation as a reward, they'd probably be more motivated, yet a lot of people think they're entitled to more, but don't really want to give more to earn more.

makes no sence to alocate money from a budget to play a game

ThosaH

10-21-2008, 05:06 PM

The forum is not a collective voice despite what you believe, it's only seems collective because people of similar interests and backgrounds have summoned to a single point. So of course they're going to have monotone opinion about things. But we all also differ on various aspects as well if you'd care to look around, we're not all drones.

i disagree with you on this point the most... which is what started me on my comment about people that are willing to pay anything for the game. if a number of people in the forum make similar comments, and no one argues an opposing point of view, then cryptic is going to assume that most people are in agreement with it. it's called implied consensus, when they aren't able to get affirmation from everyone, and no one else speaks up to reject the idea. that's why this forum is here, so cryptic can glean ideas from the players to see what their customers want from them.

anyway, to those that say they will pay any price to play this game... many people don't share that point of view, and if cryptic feels that that is the consensus of the group, then who knows? they may charge $20, $25, or even $30 a month. personally, i make enough money that, although i would be offended at being so strong armed, i would still pay because i can afford it easily. but many people are star trek fans and eagerly await this game. they might not make that kind of money. and they may in fact go ahead and subscribe. but it will be a hardship on them. $15 a month isn't so bad. but $30 a month... that's gas to get back and forth to work for a week... groceries... and you know there will be people that do it even though they really shouldn't, but because they love star trek so much they go ahead and do it anyway.

now, from a capitalist point of view, is that any of our problem, or cryptics? no, of course not. but as decent human beings we should care about others, and WANT others to enjoy their gaming experience so we can all have fun together. because that's what it's about right? forming a community of players that have fun playing together as friends? maybe not the same kind of friends on the outside world, but friends nonetheless.

RookActual

10-21-2008, 05:18 PM

makes no sence to alocate money from a budget to play a game

-blink- If you don't want to play the game, no, it wouldn't.

Wow, I spent five minutes trying to figure this out...are you saying it makes sense to allocate money from someone else's budget to do it? :confused: I mean, if you want to play the game, you have to spend money to do it...that means you now have to figure out whether you can afford to do that or not, which means you reference a budget. A budget being:

1. The amount of money or resources earmarked for a particular activity or time-frame.
2. An itemized summary of intended expenditure.

Wow, I never thought someone would disagree me with me about money coming from a budget. Holy crap.

curtst

10-21-2008, 05:53 PM

-blink- If you don't want to play the game, no, it wouldn't.

Wow, I spent five minutes trying to figure this out...are you saying it makes sense to allocate money from someone else's budget to do it? :confused: I mean, if you want to play the game, you have to spend money to do it...that means you now have to figure out whether you can afford to do that or not, which means you reference a budget. A budget being:

1. The amount of money or resources earmarked for a particular activity or time-frame.
2. An itemized summary of intended expenditure.

Wow, I never thought someone would disagree me with me about money coming from a budget. Holy crap.

Exactly. You can also allocate from other things you won't be using as much because of the game. Like down grade your cable tv service. That right there can easily save you $15 or more a month. Not using all the minutes on your mobile? Down grade that too. There are so many ways to alter bills so you can get something you want.

RookActual

10-21-2008, 06:08 PM

Exactly. You can also allocate from other things you won't be using as much because of the game. Like down grade your cable tv service. That right there can easily save you $15 or more a month. Not using all the minutes on your mobile? Down grade that too. There are so many ways to alter bills so you can get something you want.

Yeah, but it's all still a budget.

ThosaH

10-22-2008, 07:24 AM

i think we've beat this topic into the ground. the point is, it will probably cost close to the industry standard, somewhere between $40 and $60, depending on where you live, and $10 to $20 a month subscription. i don't think you can find more to talk about in reference to this.

ravenkind2

10-22-2008, 07:46 AM

As we've all said I'm sure it will priced according to the market price of games. I'd guesstimate $50 for the game, probably around $100 for a collector's edition and $10-$16 per month with 3 and 6 months plans that reduce the cost by a few dollars per month.

headlockman

10-22-2008, 10:17 AM

I would even pay 99 dollars if it was a decent collectors edtion :)

Riceball

10-23-2008, 09:35 PM

Put it this way, if you're not too sure about paying $15 or so a month for this game you can always play it for the first month free and then cancel it afterward. You probably won't get to the "end" of the game unless you're a serious power gamer but you will have gotten a month's worth of play out of the game regardless and for no more than the purchase price of the game. Given how short some games are these days playing the game for the free month only I'd say works out to be roughly average for a good number of games these days so you won't really be any worse off than if you have played any other single player game. The only real difference being is that you can always revisit a single player game even if you've finished replaying your favorite levels or starting the game over at a higher difficulty and with an MMO you can't get back into the game after the first month without paying for the monthly fee.

If money is an issue, as mentioned before, there's plenty of time to save up before the game comes out. Start socking away the cash into some sort of separate account or just stash the cash and redeposit once the game is about to come out. And if $15/month on a regular basis is tough there will probably be game cards available that you can purchase whenever you have $15 to spare and that will allow you to play for a month and you only pay when you can afford it. You can also ask for game cards for your birthday and/or Christmas and that's at least two free months of play or more if you have a big family and/or lots of friends which would probably leaving you paying for only a few months out of the year.

JMD10222

10-23-2008, 11:29 PM

ravenco

01-02-2009, 03:50 PM

Best educated guess in todays dollars

Game $50-$60
1 month free
$15.00 a month less if you pay for larger chunks of time

Limited edition
$80-$120

Expansions
$30-$45

10 day free trials

That is the usual price structure.

i hope the guy is cheaper in the main program. With the wonderful economy only the people on the top end will get this game. They need to make it like 30 dollars to buy the basic package. SWG is 30 dollars to buy the game without And some with all the expanition. ALso they offer a free trial where you get the basic software and you get expansions if you pay for it. You start playing your own account after the free trial without having to pay for the basic software. So there is alot of ways to get more people to play here.
However, i hope and dream in getting into the beta level of the game. Or if you get another contest for life time memberships please let me know. I would like to enter.

raldar

01-02-2009, 05:51 PM

They need to make it like 30 dollars to buy the basic package. SWG is 30 dollars to buy the game without And some with all the expanition. ALso they offer a free trial where you get the basic software and you get expansions if you pay for it. You start playing your own account after the free trial without having to pay for the basic software. So there is alot of ways to get more people to play here.

Sure, SWG is doing that now.But when it first came out it was regular price for a game, so roughly 50 dollars. And they were not giving the software away for free either or giving free trials untill well after the game started to tank.

So unless you think STO will tank right out of the gate don't expect anything aside from the "free month" that comes with the purchase and registration of the game.

raldar

01-02-2009, 05:54 PM

i hope the guy is cheaper in the main program. With the wonderful economy only the people on the top end will get this game.

Are you telling me that you can't save 50 dollars in a year? Because your statement really is a bit of a falsehood. Then again, that excuse has been used for years as an argument to try to get game companies to reduce thier rates for new games. Noctice how it hasn't worked.

Newt

01-03-2009, 02:37 AM

I'm looking for to the game as well as all of you. But consider this...Hellgate London is a good MMO but you only have to pay once. If you want better items or weapons, you buy them buy turning real money into game money. Why doesn't Criptic consider this type of online re-embursment? It would be like you start out with only certain types of shuttles but if you want something like the Delta Flyer then you actually have to "pay" for it. Just a thought.

Freejack

01-03-2009, 03:53 AM

But consider this...Hellgate London is a good MMO but you only have to pay once.

"Walks away with his ten-foot pole and tries his best not to touch the previous post" :rolleyes:

Vulcan_Sipho

01-03-2009, 04:06 AM

Question: I heard that they where having a contest for Lifetime Membership? How do is sign up?

they had a lifetime subscription contest last year when cryptic first launched STOL. winners have already been notified.

raldar

01-03-2009, 06:05 AM

onesoul1982

01-03-2009, 06:45 AM

i hope the guy is cheaper in the main program. With the wonderful economy only the people on the top end will get this game. They need to make it like 30 dollars to buy the basic package. SWG is 30 dollars to buy the game without And some with all the expanition. ALso they offer a free trial where you get the basic software and you get expansions if you pay for it. You start playing your own account after the free trial without having to pay for the basic software. So there is alot of ways to get more people to play here.
However, i hope and dream in getting into the beta level of the game. Or if you get another contest for life time memberships please let me know. I would like to enter.

Anybody with a job..full time or part time would be able to play it. $50 for the initial program, and then probably around a 15-20 a month subscription fee. That's MMO gaming standard.

Unless ya live in you're parents basement with no real source of income,then yah you probably won't be able to play.