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Kuhr
10-06-2008, 07:13 PM
On our exploring the Galaxy, will we be able to name the new Star Systems and new Planets we find on our explorations? If so, what names would you use?

Eureka
10-06-2008, 07:24 PM
i totally want planet Eureka!

Napalm006
10-07-2008, 01:44 AM
Whatever it is I just hope its not something stupid. Thats all we need is silly ship names and planets.

Duras
10-07-2008, 01:52 AM
Napalm006 I agree...

If its possible to name planets and stars ect, then it should go through CS automatically for logical acceptance, the named item should be updated.

Good thread... I wont give away any names, but I also wouldn't like to see 'Crushers Place' or 'I cant believe its not butter.!'

RookActual
10-07-2008, 01:55 AM
Napalm006 I agree...

If its possible to name planets and stars ect, then it should go through CS automatically for logical acceptance, the named item should be updated.

Good thread... I wont give away any names, but I also wouldn't like to see 'Crushers Place' or 'I cant believe its not butter.!'

Although it wouldn't be unbelievable to see things like "Powell Nebula"....naming them after yourself is totally acceptable. I want my Nebula to be the decomposing matter of a million Klingon Warriors.

SuRGe0n
10-07-2008, 02:12 AM
This can be a dangerous addition to the game. While it would certainly be cool to name a new system or a planet that you discovered, it would completely ruin immersion to roll up on the planet "lolz i got here first" in the "i ruule so hardcore" system. I think I'd prefer something closer to the way new, uninhabited planets seem to be named in Star Trek. You take the name of the system, which could be one or two randomly generated Latin words, names, numbesr, or lettesr, for example, The Omega Tiberius system, and then the planet would be generically named Omega Tiberius 1, Omega Tiberius 2, etc., going by it's distance from the star(s) in that system.

It would certainly be possible though to place a tag in the planet's info. page so that it was clearly stated who discovered the planet and when. For example, discovered on stardate XXXXX.X (and/or the actual date) by Captain pwnz0r of the USS getpwntnoob.

RookActual
10-07-2008, 02:13 AM
Which is why an earlier suggestion was made that for the system to be officially named, it'd have to be approved by a Rep.

Napalm006
10-07-2008, 02:16 AM
Which is why an earlier suggestion was made that for the system to be officially named, it'd have to be approved by a Rep.

A suggestion field would be nice as well. Say if you couldnt come up with something creative, the computer would generate an approved list of names that you could choose from.

SuRGe0n
10-07-2008, 03:02 AM
Which is why an earlier suggestion was made that for the system to be officially named, it'd have to be approved by a Rep.

I guess the concern here would be:

1.) How many systems/planets per day will be discovered? Is this going to have to be someone's full time job, approving names of systems/planets?

2.) What happens if the proposed name is denied? Can you imagine the back and forth?

3.) What about complaints? Can you imagine the headache? "I wanted to name my planet Megatron, but it got denied! Now I see someone else was allowed to name their planet Optimus Prime! No fair!"

Seems like an awful lot of trouble, unless new systems/planets were discovered on a fairly rare basis. It would seem like that would go against common sense though, because after you discover one uncharted system, chances are you're about to discover a whole bunch more.

RookActual
10-07-2008, 03:05 AM
I guess the concern here would be:

1.) How many systems/planets per day will be discovered? Is this going to have to be someone's full time job, approving names of systems/planets?

2.) What happens if the proposed name is denied? Can you imagine the back and forth?

3.) What about complaints? Can you imagine the headache? "I wanted to name my planet Megatron, but it got denied! Now I see someone else was allowed to name their planet Optimus Prime! No fair!"

Seems like an awful lot of trouble, unless new systems/planets were discovered on a fairly rare basis. It would seem like that would go against common sense though, because after you discover one uncharted system, chances are you're about to discover a whole bunch more.

I certainly agree with you, it seems like a hassle. Of course, if the developers weren't to implement ideas based on whether someone is going to whine about it, this website would have been shut down a while back. I really am curious, for many reasons, what the probability of discovering a system is. Can we expect to discover something new once a week, month...once in our game career?

SuRGe0n
10-07-2008, 03:38 AM
I certainly agree with you, it seems like a hassle. Of course, if the developers weren't to implement ideas based on whether someone is going to whine about it, this website would have been shut down a while back. I really am curious, for many reasons, what the probability of discovering a system is. Can we expect to discover something new once a week, month...once in our game career?

I guess that's really the main question.

From what I've read it seems like they have some sort of random planet generator ready to go. Whether or not that means we'll discover new races along with those planets I don't know. The presence of a system that allows player creation of new alien species leads me to believe that a random alien generator will be in place as well. Will the game create random names for these aliens? Certainly they must call themselves something, and if they do, they've likely named their planet and possibly their system, so player naming will likely be limited to systems which are uninhabited.

How will they limit our exploring though? It would seem that, after you've travelled far enough, you're going to start running into unexplored (by your faction) space. At that point, the number of unnamed systems should outnumber named ones by a pretty significant margin.

They can't let our exploring go on forever though, can they?

Maybe we'll be boxed into a playable portion of the alpha quadrant somehow and unexplored space will only pop up from time to time with high level missions involving wormholes or other spacial anamolies. The more I think of it, the more I'm glad I'm not making this game.

It's hard to figure this stuff out. :)

Napalm006
10-07-2008, 04:10 AM
I guess that's really the main question.

From what I've read it seems like they have some sort of random planet generator ready to go. Whether or not that means we'll discover new races along with those planets I don't know. The presence of a system that allows player creation of new alien species leads me to believe that a random alien generator will be in place as well. Will the game create random names for these aliens? Certainly they must call themselves something, and if they do, they've likely named their planet and possibly their system, so player naming will likely be limited to systems which are uninhabited.

How will they limit our exploring though? It would seem that, after you've travelled far enough, you're going to start running into unexplored (by your faction) space. At that point, the number of unnamed systems should outnumber named ones by a pretty significant margin.

They can't let our exploring go on forever though, can they?

Maybe we'll be boxed into a playable portion of the alpha quadrant somehow and unexplored space will only pop up from time to time with high level missions involving wormholes or other spacial anamolies. The more I think of it, the more I'm glad I'm not making this game.

It's hard to figure this stuff out. :)

We only know but a small sliver of the galaxy. There is plenty to explore in this game from years to come. Space is a very vast place.

ninjakiller1
10-07-2008, 04:16 AM
we can't name a planet that we discovered in game, thing about it you found one and named it and other person named it something als, and both you say a different name of planets that won't make sense, not only you but other people will do same thing, its best leave it to professionalist to do their jobs with names of planets.

Kuhr
10-07-2008, 06:48 AM
From what I read, some good points are made. Hopefully no one will add a dumb name to a system or planet they discover. But I think its a cool idea to name the things you find. What I might do is name some planets after some greek gods or some famouse people in history. And I would love to name a system or planet with my name added to it...lol..why not? :D

Kuhr
10-07-2008, 06:53 AM
we can't name a planet that we discovered in game, thing about it you found one and named it and other person named it something als, and both you say a different name of planets that won't make sense, not only you but other people will do same thing, its best leave it to professionalist to do their jobs with names of planets.


I believe that once the person who discovered the Planet or System first is the one who will name it and that the name will be permanent. Hopefully the professionals have enough common sense to let the first person who named the planet or systems to stay with that name and not keep adding new names to them.:(

Mailman653
10-07-2008, 07:19 AM
I only hope that when you name a planet it goes trhough some kind of approval process first. I'd hate to run into a system of four planets with only one letter names only to figure out the four planets spell out some profanity.

Signalsgt
10-07-2008, 07:30 AM
I think this falls into the category of "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should".

Systems/Planets should be pulled from a master database. I can say with 100% certainty that if players are able to set names for persistent area's, there will be inappropriate names. Just like in every other MMO there will be no personal accountability in ST:O.

Captain_Intrepid
10-07-2008, 09:34 AM
Planet Bob.:p

Angelphoenix12
10-07-2008, 03:32 PM
On our exploring the Galaxy, will we be able to name the new Star Systems and new Planets we find on our explorations? If so, what names would you use?

now that would be a neat idea, but what would happen if 2 or more people found the same planet., who would get to name it.?

Reverend_Rhah
10-07-2008, 03:47 PM
This can be a dangerous addition to the game. While it would certainly be cool to name a new system or a planet that you discovered, it would completely ruin immersion to roll up on the planet "lolz i got here first" in the "i ruule so hardcore" system. I think I'd prefer something closer to the way new, uninhabited planets seem to be named in Star Trek. You take the name of the system, which could be one or two randomly generated Latin words, names, numbesr, or lettesr, for example, The Omega Tiberius system, and then the planet would be generically named Omega Tiberius 1, Omega Tiberius 2, etc., going by it's distance from the star(s) in that system.

It would certainly be possible though to place a tag in the planet's info. page so that it was clearly stated who discovered the planet and when. For example, discovered on stardate XXXXX.X (and/or the actual date) by Captain pwnz0r of the USS getpwntnoob.

I think this is a great way of handling this situation. I have played Many MMO's over the years and have never roll played. The Trekie in me says otherwise with this game. It would ruin my in game experience to show up to some beautiful planet to find it named XXXXXBONECRUSHER17XXXXX. Give it a random or preset if development wishes, but tag it to state who discovered it origanally. Stick with conventional naming! ;)

Trekkie
10-07-2008, 07:07 PM
I think that giving players the opportunity to name star systems and planets is a good concept, but unless it was implemented very carefully I think that it could lead to a number of problems.

WarpVis
10-07-2008, 07:25 PM
I think it would be cool to name planets. Stars in theory should already have a designation, because they are visible for far greater distances. Therefore, stars are not likely to be a new discovery to someone that could actually travel to them.

I think planets that have indiginous populations should be named by the planetary residents.

I am also okay with the occasional silly name on a planet, this is in keeping with many traditions, even Star trek had Mudd's World.

jasonadlai
10-07-2008, 07:54 PM
This would be cool. Will we actually be able to see and visit the locations that others have discovered, though? I didn't know if they had said we would or not...

That being said, the suggestion has now been raised that character, ship, planet, and system names all be run through a representative. How many reps is this game going to require? ;)

SuRGe0n
10-07-2008, 09:50 PM
WarpVis makes a good point about the names of stars. Of course, if the star has name, the planets likely also have designations. For example, if you've traveled to the Omicron system, the fifth planet in the system is probably called Omicron 5 (unless it's inhabited, in which case it probably has a better name).

Actually, now that I've given this a little more thought, I think this is more likely scenario:

We will not be able to name either planets or systems.

When the devs talked about "discovering" new planets, I think they were talking more about making first contact with new civs in already named systems. I think it's possible that, when you make first contact, your tag will be placed into the info. page for that planet. For example:

GALAXIA

Class: M
Inhabitants: Galaxians (Picture)
First Contact: Stardate XXXXX.X (10 Oct 2008) by Captain Victoria Secret of the USS Underwear.
Followed by some racial stats & info., including their faction loyalties.

I would assume that each planet will probably be able to have a First Contact tag for each faction. For example, if I'm a Fedrat, I'll see the Victoria Secret tag. If I'm a Klingon, I'll see the tag for the person who made first contact for the Klingon side.

ninjakiller1
10-08-2008, 01:35 AM
I hope you don't call a planet like Washington DC lol or something als!

Droneq
10-08-2008, 07:38 AM
Class: M
Inhabitants: Galaxians (Picture)
First Contact: Stardate XXXXX.X (10 Oct 2008) by Captain Victoria Secret of the USS Underwear.
Followed by some racial stats & info., including their faction loyalties.[/I]

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I think this would be a perfect way to do it, as people have already said (and i shall repeat for the hell of it), the last thing you want while enjoying the experiance is a name that is out of place.

The other thing i curious about with regards to discovering planets is, wether there will always be new planet/system to explore or would it eventually all be discovered. If its the secound i feel sorry for anyone coming to the game late, unless they open new servers.

Nimisis
10-08-2008, 08:14 AM
There should be random planet name generators for each sector/system, the player will get a pop-up/message with a list of available names to choose from.

Along with maybe a suggestion box that players can suggest a name of their own choice to be submitted to a galactic charting system "devs/moderators" for consideration. every month or so the charts get updated and the approved names get changed and updated. It could either be a 1 time chance "or maybe 3", and upon non-approval a message will be sent to you stating the name was denied. Then either it stays the designated name til approval or your chances are up and all denied.

This would be a pretty fair way for a player to be to name a planet or system.

But even if the Planets/Systems names are randomly generated or a player gets to choose a name from a list of options, hopefully the full details of the discovery and the history of the said planet/system will be recorded for all history who it was that made the discovery "stardate, time, size, type, discoverer, resources, ect". So when studied or stumbled upon people will know it was came to be known and who discovered it.

Torcano
10-08-2008, 09:17 AM
GALAXIA

Class: M
Inhabitants: Galaxians (Picture)
First Contact: Stardate XXXXX.X (10 Oct 2008) by Captain Victoria Secret of the USS Underwear.
Followed by some racial stats & info., including their faction loyalties.

I would assume that each planet will probably be able to have a First Contact tag for each faction. For example, if I'm a Fedrat, I'll see the Victoria Secret tag. If I'm a Klingon, I'll see the tag for the person who made first contact for the Klingon side.

I vote for this

Voorhees
10-08-2008, 10:50 AM
Well what they can do since their using the same security used in the cia is that they can come up with a pretty hardcore filtering system. Also they can have a GM patrol these systems or if a new system gets named it e mails the devs or GM'S and they have an ability to rename it and it e mails the namer the chance to rename it one time. If they goof again the proccess happens over again. If the name is against the eula like a swear word or a racist remark then that person can get a warning and or banned.

Voorhees
10-08-2008, 10:52 AM
What do you mean i cannot have a planet named "got milk?"

WarpVis
10-08-2008, 11:31 AM
WarpVis makes a good point about the names of stars. Of course, if the star has name, the planets likely also have designations. For example, if you've traveled to the Omicron system, the fifth planet in the system is probably called Omicron 5 (unless it's inhabited, in which case it probably has a better name).

Actually, now that I've given this a little more thought, I think this is more likely scenario:

We will not be able to name either planets or systems.

When the devs talked about "discovering" new planets, I think they were talking more about making first contact with new civs in already named systems. I think it's possible that, when you make first contact, your tag will be placed into the info. page for that planet. For example:

GALAXIA

Class: M
Inhabitants: Galaxians (Picture)
First Contact: Stardate XXXXX.X (10 Oct 2008) by Captain Victoria Secret of the USS Underwear.
Followed by some racial stats & info., including their faction loyalties.

I would assume that each planet will probably be able to have a First Contact tag for each faction. For example, if I'm a Fedrat, I'll see the Victoria Secret tag. If I'm a Klingon, I'll see the tag for the person who made first contact for the Klingon side.

Naming the planet may still be possible as long as it is not occupied by any sentient beings. Omicron 5 or more propperly Omicron V is a designation not a name. Similar to Sol II for Venus, Sol III for Earth, Sol IIIa for our moon, Sol IV for Mars, Sol IVa for Phobos, Sol IVb for Deimos, etc.

The point being these are designations and do not preclude the possibility of naming. The possibility for the naming of stars also exists because many only have astronomical catalog designations and do not have names.

I think if they have a large enough universe to allow for worlds to be discovered, explored and named in game, that it would be cool to be able to do so.

SuRGe0n
10-08-2008, 12:45 PM
Naming the planet may still be possible as long as it is not occupied by any sentient beings. Omicron 5 or more propperly Omicron V is a designation not a name. Similar to Sol II for Venus, Sol III for Earth, Sol IIIa for our moon, Sol IV for Mars, Sol IVa for Phobos, Sol IVb for Deimos, etc.

The point being these are designations and do not preclude the possibility of naming. The possibility for the naming of stars also exists because many only have astronomical catalog designations and do not have names.

I think if they have a large enough universe to allow for worlds to be discovered, explored and named in game, that it would be cool to be able to do so.

I stand corrected. Thanks for the education. :)

WarpVis
10-08-2008, 12:59 PM
I stand corrected. Thanks for the education. :)

I had to fisrt educate myself. It did not occur to me until you used the term "designation" then I had to do a little research. That is when I realized that it is still possible to name stars.

It probably will not matter, I doubt that the ability to name newly found worlds will be an option. I just thought it would really add to the experience, and how neat it would be to be able to access a data base on a world and see yourself listed as the first to explore it.:)

eNDIE
10-08-2008, 01:04 PM
I cant see how much harder it would be than enforcing a namingpolicy for avatars wich many mmos already does.